Re-post: How Will Terrorists Respond to Obama’s Election: Open Thread

Written by steven hall on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 11:04 AM

I was asked by Culture Feast founder Daniel Dessinger, a.k.a. @DanielthePoet, to weigh in on this question on the Culture Feast blog. They have permitted me to re-post here. My response to the question is below. I invite your comments whether in agreement or telling me I'm full of crap:

Posted on 05 November 2008 by Daniel Dessinger

It's safe to say that in this neck of the world, there are two predominant ideals regarding the anti-American terrorist response to United States Presidential Election. This is an open thread, so we'll state the two opposing views and allow you to discuss.

View #1: Anti-American Sentiment Will Lessen As a Direct Result of Obama's Election
Many people hold Republicans and, more specifically, President George W. Bush, responsible for the militant anti-American sentiment around the world. Those holding this view believe that America has now proven it's true heart by electing Barack Obama, and that the rest of the world will take note and not hold the entire country responsible for past presidential "atrocities."

Perhaps terrorists, Iran, Syria, Korea, and others will see the United States differently now that George W. Bush and his worldview are being removed from office. If so, a new era of peaceful negotiations and resolutions to conflicts could begin. Or at the very least, these sovereign nations will not pursue terrorist action because they expect to be respected as sovereign nations and left alone by the previous "world police".

View #2: Electing Obama Has Opened the Floodgates for Terrorism Against American Interests
According to this view, Republican military strength was necessary to express and demonstrate American strength to terrorist factions and dictatorships around the globe. Now that the United States has elected a leader who prefers talks to a show of military force, the impact upon groups most likely to plan a terrorist or military strike is minimal. These groups have a blood feud with the United States and its ideals, and will not be deterred by a Democratic Obama.

In fact, Obama represents weakness. His expressed unwillingness to make difficult preemptive military decisions makes his presidency a prime target for terrorist activity. According to this view, we can expect to see a surge of military/terrorist moves during Obama's first term. They expect Obama will waste too much time trying to negotiate with terrorist/military leaders while they are free to conduct black ops and behind the scenes preparations for attacks against our nation.

Now it's your turn to weigh in.
What affect will Obama's presidency have on anti-American sentiment among terrorist and dictatorial military factions? Keep in mind, we're not talking the world at large - only those who would consider doing harm against our citizens, our interests, and our nation.
My response:
"This is a bit of a conundrum. Anti-American sentiments are not relegated to terrorists. It has been spreading, slowly, from France in the years after WWII.

With WWII being completed the U.S. played a major part in the financing and rebuilding of France. And then we played there "majorly" as if it were the new playground we had built. We did this without much regard of the French culture, and as a result anti-American sentiments slowly but steadily arose to the point it becomes a by-line joke in National Lampoons "European Vacation" with Chevy Chase.

The tie-in around the world, is the perceived philosophy of our actions. We are seen as a country that simply does what it wants, frequently without regard for our global neighbors. That may not be simply a Republican thing, but it is arguable that they have been worse at it. Now, it is also argued that, being the most powerful country, we have protected others (or tried to) and therefore have an "excuse" to "jump to the front of the line" or do what we want when most other countries are bound by a more extensive international decorum.

In interviews in Spain, Italy, South America, etc... we were described as a disrespectful people--of our elderly, our sick, our neighbors etc... That our priorities were wrong with healthcare and education and a visible disdain was the result. Despite our tremendous power.

Terrorism, on the other hand, is about chaos interruption, and skewed religious beliefs resulting statement actions.

Whereas I am inclined to think that the steady, methodical approach and controlled demeanor we have seen from Obama will continue in his interaction with our global neighbors, probably resulting over time in less anti-American sentiment; I'm not sure if it will lessen terrorism bent on U.S. disruption. Because they are about statement actions, terrorists will strive to make the largest statements when possible.

America is an advanced target. Whereas part of the activity, on our soil which we have seen, has been reprisal for our actions abroad (arguable) and may lessen *some*, we are still seen as the place to make the biggest statement. "Attack the infidel power!" I'm not convinced we're much more, or less, of a target due to an immanent change in leadership and subsequently global decorum and perception. Their actions can't be just about targeting strength--China is arguably stronger in military might. But they tend to keep to themselves relative to our activity abroad. Perhaps they too will become more of a target. They have had some small activity, in 1992, and a "foiled plot" in Beijing in 2009. Other than some minor Seperatist Muslim activity, they're okay.

Simply put, I believe *general* anti-American sentiments will lessen, but I am inclined to think that any planned path of terrorist interruptions will continue more or less as they have; even with this new President-Elect. Whether or not they will step things up because Obama is a Democrat which some perceive as militarily flacid, who can know? I *do* think they see him differently than many Americans do. I think they seem him as shrewd. Intellegent. Controlled. Perhaps even unpredicable. That may not equate to a desired conflict."

We invite you to join the conversation--what do you think? Agree? disagree? have more options to add to the consideration?

7 Responses to "Re-post: How Will Terrorists Respond to Obama’s Election: Open Thread"

Comment by Milena
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:47:00 PM CST #  

"The tie-in around the world, is the perceived philosophy of our actions. We are seen as a country that simply does what it wants, frequently without regard for our global neighbors."

I don't buy that 100%. At a dinner with some New Zealanders over the summer, they wondered why Bush isn't "doing something about Iran." They expect the US to police the rest of the world, and some in the international community like it, because it takes the pressure off them to do anything about it.

I know little of foreign policy, but a lot about economics. I also know people tend to not kill people they trade with. Democrats have historically been big on free trade, and some current Democrats support free trade, but their voices are being drowned out, in particular by Obama-style Protectionist Dems. (Union-organizers, and other "don't send our jobs overseas" proponents)

Since 1980, trade with Muslim countries (arguably where most terrorists live and are being raised and recruited) decreased by 75% to the present day. Think about that. I think the correlation between the inability for people in Muslim countries to make a decent living to the increase in their desire to kill the people who have imposed those barriers is apparent.

Muslim countries are not fundamentally militant and terrorist-leaning. But when men and women cannot make a living successfully, i.e. cannot trade honestly and efficiently, they become deeply disillusioned. Because barriers to outside trade exists, opportunity to excel can only be found within the walls of their country. These people are easy recruits to militant Islam - a hardworking young man needs to express himself somehow! If he can't make it in business, he'll make it in religion and succumb to the tempting promises, and destructive actions that accompany them.

I am not banking on Obama's charming smile and delightful vocabulary to work any diplomatic magic. His lack of understanding of basic economic principles makes me feel totally unsure about his ability to "heal" anything about the world's problems. His disregard for people living in disadvantaged economic positions *worldwide* is a big problem for me. He is a collectivist and redistributionist, but only for America? That's a major contradiction in philosophy.

Comment by steven hall
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:58:00 PM CST #  

Great response, Milena, to coin a friend's phrase, "very meaty". It's probably appropriate that the 1st comment is one that is in disagreement with me--it happens frequently! Thanks for the honest interaction.

I would bet if one could drill down in to multiple people groups from country to country, both arguments, if not others, could be supported. Went hiking with some kiwis last year and they were aghast at our Middle East "over-involvement".

You do make a good point about commerce and trade though-kudos.

Comment by Milena
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:33:00 PM CST #  

Oh I wasn't really disagreeing with you! I know some people abroad hate the US. My cousin in Croatia told me she never wanted to visit here, whereas in 2000, she was all about it. I just meant that there are probably equal amounts of people who appreciate the US's position. RE: Obama, I thought you presented a realistic opinion, I should have made that more clear.

Like I said, I know very little about foreign policy - but wanted to add that I think economic policy matters, and that is where Obama is very likely to falter.

Comment by steven hall
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:47:00 PM CST #  

ha!--I'm no expert either, but definitely find myself paying more and more attention though! Glad you're on here.

Anonymous
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:48:00 PM CST #  

Simply put, terrorism will decrease. Remember McCain was the candidate whom actually WAS endorsed by Al Qaida.



Reposting article:

Who loves McCain? al-Qaeda loves John McCain.
Sun, 10/26/2008 — 12:57pm — Jacob Grovum

Well why not?

In an election year where it appears just about anything (neo-McCarthyism from Minnesota's sixth to a black man heading a major party's ticket) this shouldn't surpise me, or anyone else for that matter.

Apparently, al-Qaeda has endorsed John McCain for president. No, seriously. Really. I'm serious. You can't make this stuff up!

Calling McCain the "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate, a group with ties to al-Qaeda said the Arizona senator was best suited if al-Qaeda wants to "exhaust the US militarily and economically."

More from the message via the UK's Telegraph:

"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said.

"Then, al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

"If al-Qaeda carries out a big operation against American interests," it said, "this act will be support of McCain because it will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America till its last year in it."

Well it will be interesting to see how the McCain camp handles this one. Sure, you could say the candidate obviously rejects the endorsement and doesn't welcome the support, but this is the same campaign that just recently had Rudy Giuliani on the phone with reporters (check the blog) talking about Hamas' endorsement of Barack Obama. What do you do now? Indeed, what do you do?

Comment by Kenny C
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 3:59:00 PM CST #  

Try This on for Size

World Trade Center Bombing – 1993. This occurred during the first year of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

Second World Trade Center Attack – 2001. Fresh in our memories, this also occurred in the first year of Bush’s presidency. It was believed at least in part, that because of the weak response to the first World Trade Center attack (during the Clinton administration) the outside world could get to us with no concern for reprisal.

*It’s worth noting that there was an attempt on Reagan’s life within 69 days of him taking office. Though, it was not considered an outside terrorist attack, there seems to be an obvious correlation to president’s being tested in their first year in office.

One’s political affiliation seems not to matter as much as one’s experience and expertise regarding his/her ability to lead and make decisions. Time will tell with Obama. I believe he will be tested. Hopefully, he will have the ability to act decisively and lead well.

God bless us all!

Comment by steven hall
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:36:00 PM CST #  

wow Kenny C and anonymous--great adds; thanks!